Letting Congress overturn a presidential pardon by a two-thirds vote of both chambers would reduce the use of the pardon power for private gain. 0.50 Agree Disagree

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Logical form (Some pardons are granted for the president's private benefit) AND (a congressional override would deter or reverse those grants) AND (an override can be enacted). The third component is legal rather than empirical, and it is the one most likely to hold this page down once all three have been argued.

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1. Barring members of Congress and the president from owning or trading individual stocks would reduce the use of public office for private gain. 0.50
2. Barring the president and members of Congress from giving any official government function to a family member would reduce the use of public office for private gain. 0.50
3. Requiring the president and members of Congress to publish their tax returns would reduce the use of public office for private gain. 0.50
4. Public office should not be usable for private gain. 0.50
5. Letting Congress overturn a presidential pardon by a two-thirds vote of both chambers would reduce the use of the pardon power for private gain. (this page)

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67% Argues to 0.59, held at 0.50 by 3 load-bearing components tied at that level, any one of which caps it: Some pardons are granted for the president's private benefit; A congressional override would deter or reverse the grants at issue; An override mechanism can be enacted.

Confidence

54%. Weakest parts: testability 0% · scrutiny 23%

Depended on

ReasonRank 0.0033, 4 of 2173

Strongest reason for

Clemency is the only executive power with no check at all: impeachment reaches the officer, not the act, and the act is final the moment it is signed. +0.00

Strongest reason against

Article II grants the power without a congressional role, and the Supreme Court has held it is not subject to legislative control, so this requires a constitutional amendment rather than a statute. -0.00

What would move this most

Settling Some pardons are granted for the president's private benefit.: 0.00 if false, 0.50 if true

Prediction with the most at stake

If false: Presidents shift to pre-emptive and blanket pardons issued on the last day, where an override vote arrives after the recipients have scattered. (0.14 points at stake)

Net expected value

mixed units, no single net: number of self-interested grants subject to review per term +2.50; number of deterred grants per term +1.50; percentage points of grants going through the Pardon Attorney +20.00; number of meritorious grants not made per decade -10.00; months of legal uncertainty per grant -12.00; number of additional partisan floor votes per term -2.00 · 6 of the 6 priced rows state a single figure with no range

Kind of fight

Mixed dispute · evidence two-sidedness 50% · linkage leaning against relevance 0% · value-ranking gap 1.67 · ease of resolution 0.25

Coverage

Of 16 scored rows, 13 have no linkage page, 8 have no importance page, 16 have no uniqueness page. This page reads 69 other pages. 19 of them are one-sided or empty: Comparing states where a board or the legislature checks clemency with states where the governor acts alone is a fair test of whether a check on pardons reduces grants to the pardoner's own circle.; How often Congress has overridden a presidential veto when the president's party held more than a third of either chamber is a fair guide to whether a two-thirds override of a pardon could ever pass.; The share of federal pardons granted without a recommendation from the Justice Department's Pardon Attorney is a fair measure of how often the pardon power is used outside a review on the merits.; A study of the states finds that where a board or the legislature can check clemency, governors grant fewer pardons to their relatives, donors and associates than governors who act alone.; Public records show that people close to a president received money, donations or business favors from pardon recipients or their families shortly before the pardons were granted.; A review of federal pardons across several presidencies finds that grants to a president's own relatives, donors and associates are rare and nearly all had a case the Justice Department would have supported on the merits.; State legislatures and boards that hold a power to review or block clemency almost never use it, even against grants that both parties publicly condemned.; Once a congressional override of pardons is in the Constitution, the first pardons granted to a president's relatives or donors draw a recorded vote in Congress.; Once a congressional override of pardons exists, pardon recipients and their lawyers wait for the override window to close before relying on a grant, which delays releases and dismissed cases.; In the decade after a congressional override of pardons exists, fewer federal pardons go to the president's relatives, donors and business partners than in the decade before.; In the decade after a congressional override of pardons exists, presidents grant fewer pardons of every kind, including deserved ones, to avoid a fight in Congress.; A president who knows a pardon could face a recorded vote in Congress will grant fewer pardons that serve the president's own interests.; Enough members of Congress will vote against a self-serving pardon on its merits even when the president who granted it leads their own party.; Congress is more likely than a president to judge a pardon by partisan passion or public anger rather than by the merits of the case.; The harm done by pardons granted to a president's allies is smaller than the harm of making every federal pardon uncertain until Congress has had its chance to vote.; Justice Undone: Clemency Decisions in the Clinton White House, House Committee on Government Reform, H. Rept. 107-454, 2002; The Presidential Pardon Power, Jeffrey P. Crouch, 2009; The Federalist No. 74, Alexander Hamilton, 1788; The Ascent of the Administrative State and the Demise of Mercy, Rachel E. Barkow, Harvard Law Review, vol. 121, 2008.

Bottom line

The gap is real: clemency is the only federal power with no check, and grants to the president's own circle are documented in both parties. All three load-bearing components sit at the neutral start, so any one of them caps the page. The one to argue first is not the constitutional objection but whether an override could ever be exercised at a two-thirds threshold against a president whose own party holds a third of either chamber.

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